Agenda and draft minutes

People and Health Scrutiny Committee - Thursday, 6th February, 2025 10.00 am

Venue: Meeting Room 1, County Hall, Dorchester, DT1 1XJ. View directions

Contact: George Dare  01305 224185 - Email: george.dare@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk

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Items
No. Item

46.

Apologies

To receive any apologies for absence.

 

Minutes:

An apology for absence was received from Cllr Laura Beddow.

 

 

47.

Declarations of Interest

To disclose any pecuniary, other registrable or non-registrable interest as set out in the adopted Code of Conduct. In making their disclosure councillors are asked to state the agenda item, the nature of the interest and any action they propose to take as part of their declaration.

 

If required, further advice should be sought from the Monitoring Officer in advance of the meeting.

 

Minutes:

There were no declarations of interest.

 

 

48.

Minutes pdf icon PDF 102 KB

To confirm the minutes of the meeting held on 16 January 2024.

 

(Minutes to follow)

 

Minutes:

Cllr Legg raised a concern with the accuracy in Minute 43 – Scrutiny Request. The wording of this minute would be amended and agreed with Cllr Legg following the meeting.

 

The Committee confirmed the minutes of the previous meeting, subject to the amendment agreed with Cllr Legg.

 

 

49.

Public Participation pdf icon PDF 49 KB

Representatives of town or parish councils and members of the public who live, work, or represent an organisation within the Dorset Council area are welcome to submit either 1 question or 1 statement for each meeting.  You are welcome to attend the meeting in person or via Microsoft Teams to read out your question and to receive the response.   If you submit a statement for the committee this will be circulated to all members of the committee in advance of the meeting as a supplement to the agenda and appended to the minutes for the formal record but will not be read out at the meeting. The first 8 questions and the first 8 statements received from members of the public or organisations for each meeting will be accepted on a first come first served basis in accordance with the deadline set out below.  For further information read Public Participation - Dorset Council

 

All submissions must be emailed in full to george.dare@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk by 8.30am on Monday, 3 February 2025.

 

When submitting your question or statement please note that: 

 

·         You can submit 1 question or 1 statement.

·         a question may include a short pre-amble to set the context.

·         It must be a single question and any sub-divided questions will not be permitted.

·         Each question will consist of no more than 450 words, and you will be given up to 3 minutes to present your question.

·         when submitting a question please indicate who the question is for (e.g., the name of the committee or Portfolio Holder) 

·         Include your name, address, and contact details.  Only your name will be published but we may need your other details to contact you about your question or statement in advance of the meeting. 

·         questions and statements received in line with the council’s rules for public participation will be published as a supplement to the agenda. 

·         all questions, statements and responses will be published in full within the minutes of the meeting.

 

Additional documents:

Minutes:

There was 1 question submitted by a member of the public, which was read out by the Chairman. A response was provided by the Cabinet Member for Children’s Services, Education and Skills.

 

The question and the response are attached as an appendix to these minutes.

 

 

50.

Councillor Questions

To receive questions submitted by councillors.  

 

Councillors can submit up to two valid questions at each meeting and sub divided questions count towards this total.   Questions and statements received will be published as a supplement to the agenda and all questions, statements and responses will be published in full within the minutes of the meeting. 

 

The submissions must be emailed in full to george.dare@dorsetcouncil.gov.uk by 8.30am on Monday, 3 February 2025. 

 

Dorset Council Constitution – Procedure Rule 13

 

Minutes:

There were no questions submitted by councillors.

 

 

51.

Urgent Items

To consider any items of business which the Chairman has had prior notification and considers to be urgent pursuant to section 100B (4)b) of the Local Government Act 1972.  The reason for the urgency shall be recorded in the minutes.

 

Minutes:

There were no urgent items.

 

 

52.

Dorset Safeguarding Children Partnership pdf icon PDF 212 KB

To consider a report by the Service Manager for Strategic Partnerships.

 

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Corporate Director for Quality Assurance and Safeguarding introduced the report and highlighted the key areas. The report identified some areas for improvement, and she updated on progress in these areas. The Safeguarding Children Partnership had split from BCP Council and now included education as a statutory partner. The Partnership had implemented new Working Together statutory guidance before the deadline.

 

The Committee discussed the report and asked questions of the officers. The following points were raised:

 

·       There were concerns about pupils’ mobile phone use in schools and how this affects their mental health. Improvements to socialisation and mental health had been seen in schools operating a no-phones policy.

·       Individual schools can introduce a no-phones policy; however, it would need a change from government for it to be mandated in schools.

·       The council should be encouraging schools to introduce no-phones policies. Training could be given to school governors to raise awareness of introducing a no-phones policy

·       A fortnightly Headteacher meeting would be used to discuss the benefits of no-phones policies in schools. There would be opportunities for schools with the policy to mentor those schools without the policy and helping them to introduce it.

·       A member questioned what the council was doing to raise parents’ awareness of online safety and safeguarding. In response officers advised that online safety learning and development was available to professionals and the voluntary sector. Report Remove, an initiative by Childline, was raised at the Children’s Services conference.

·       The Corporate Director for Quality Assurance and Safeguarding committed to discussing online safeguarding and raising awareness with parents at a Safeguarding Children Partnership meeting and creating an action plan.

·       As a result of the Families First for Children Pathfinder, there was improved integration from the Education sector in multi-agency work. Members requested that an update on this is included in the next annual report.

·       In response to whether there were areas of safeguarding unique to Dorset, it was confirmed that there were no unique areas, however there could be differences in safeguarding caused by demographics.

·       A member questioned how responsibility and finances worked in multi-agency safeguarding arrangements. The Executive Director for Children’s Services advised that the Safeguarding Partnership Board oversees the delivery of safeguarding, and the Strategic Alliance for Children and Young People was responsible for the Children, Young People and Families Plan. The Executive Director was responsible for facilitating across the system.

·       In relation to the finances, there could be tensions with funding. The council was receiving a grant for 2025/26 for implementing the Pathfinder, which included introducing the Education sector as a statutory partner in safeguarding.

·       The Chairman sought assurance that the council learns from previous safeguarding issues to ensure they do not happen again as in her experience over time, learning was forgotten leaving services vulnerable to repeating safeguarding failures. Officers advised that there were multiple options, which included changing policies, delivering training to staff, and monitoring progress and performance, ensuring that it is reviewed regularly. Issues which cause gaps in awareness could include changing staff  ...  view the full minutes text for item 52.

53.

Birth to Settled Adulthood Progress Report pdf icon PDF 306 KB

To consider a report by the Head of Service for Birth to Settled Adulthood.

 

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Committee was disappointed with NHS and council officers not being in attendance, who were asked to attend for this item. The committee agreed to defer the item to an additional meeting in March 2025.

 

The Committee adjourned for a comfort break and returned at 11.28am.

 

 

54.

Performance Scrutiny

A review of the relevant Dorset Council performance dashboard to inform the scrutiny committee’s work programme and to identify items for further review.

 

The following link is the dashboard for the committee:

 

People and Health Scrutiny Committee

Minutes:

The Performance and Analytics Team Leader introduced the item. In a pre-meeting to review the performance dashboard, the committee identified 3 performance indicators of concern which officers needed to address.

 

The first indicator was the number of outstanding Care Act assessments. There was a 30% reduction in the waiting list for Care Act assessments and the average wait tune for assessments had been reduced to 71 days. Approximately 200 requests for statutory assessments and 200 requests for therapy assessments were received each month. There was new staff guidance and a risk management tool for triaging assessments.

 

In response to questions asked by committee members the Corporate Director for Adult Social Care advised that there was no national benchmark or indicator to responding to assessments, so it could not be compared to other councils. Metrics on the number of new and closed assessments per month would be prepared for the committee. The main barrier to reducing the number of assessments was the lack of a community based reablement offer. This reablement offer was currently being piloted on a small scale, but there was national evidence that the model is successful.

 

The next performance indicator was the number of recorded crimes which had worsened. The Corporate Director for Housing and Community Safety said that the data for this indicator was complex and reported by the police through the Community Safety Partnership. The Community Safety Annual Report being considered by the committee in June would have further details about crime statistics. An online tool for crime statistics would be circulated following the meeting.

 

The final indicator was the percentage of 16- and 17-year-olds not in education, employment or training (NEET). The Dorset NEET rate was higher than the council’s statistical neighbours, however it had a lower ‘not known’ rate. A careers hub was available to pupils, and it would be hosted by the council from March. Families with children in home education would be contacted about careers. A lack of transport contributed to young people not being able to access opportunities. Data on the number of NEET young people in each locality would be produced and made available to the Local Alliance Groups.

 

 

55.

Committee's Work Programme and Cabinet's Forward Plan pdf icon PDF 86 KB

To consider the committee’s Work Programme and the Cabinet Forward Plan.

 

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The committee considered its work programme and the executive forward plans.

 

The Chairman would explore issues with NHS funding issues for hospices and issues with end-of-life care.

 

Members suggested items for the committee’s work programme, which included:

·       A review of public health disaggregation

·       Void housing and temporary accommodation

·       Continued monitoring of outstanding Care Act assessments

 

 

56.

Exempt Business

To move the exclusion of the press and the public for the following item in view of the likely disclosure of exempt information within the meaning of paragraph x of schedule 12 A to the Local Government Act 1972 (as amended). The public and the press will be asked to leave the meeting whilst the item of business is considered.  

 

There are no exempt items scheduled for this meeting.

 

Minutes:

There was no exempt business.